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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on It&#039;s a Nice Suit, Barry, But Does it Really Fit? by Doc Hopper</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/07/01/its-a-nice-suit-barry-but-does-it-really-fit-312/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it all depends upon what you expect from a "Progressive".  Barry seems to be moving toward some mythical political center as the election nears...who knows how he will behave after the election.  I guess that a leftward-leaning observer might almost feel betrayed by his behavior thus far.  He's slicker by half than we all thought; possibly the Republicans' worst nightmare for the November election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it all depends upon what you expect from a &#8220;Progressive&#8221;.  Barry seems to be moving toward some mythical political center as the election nears&#8230;who knows how he will behave after the election.  I guess that a leftward-leaning observer might almost feel betrayed by his behavior thus far.  He&#8217;s slicker by half than we all thought; possibly the Republicans&#8217; worst nightmare for the November election.</p>
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		<title>Comment on His Drilling Fever Knows No Bounds by Doc Hopper</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/27/his-drilling-fever-knows-no-bounds-311/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we'll be drilling for oil on Mars; it's too far from the sun for solar power to be useful, and the atmosphere too thin for significant wind power  Oops, you need carbon-based life (and death) to generate oil...I guess we could use Mars to deposit our nuclear waste (not in MY back yard).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we&#8217;ll be drilling for oil on Mars; it&#8217;s too far from the sun for solar power to be useful, and the atmosphere too thin for significant wind power  Oops, you need carbon-based life (and death) to generate oil&#8230;I guess we could use Mars to deposit our nuclear waste (not in MY back yard).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Denny Sings While His Lobbyists &#039;Make it Rain&#039; by Doc Hopper</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/26/denny-sings-while-his-lobbyists-make-it-rain-309/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody sings off-key of K-Street.
Maybe Denny'll give us another chorus.</description>
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Maybe Denny&#8217;ll give us another chorus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on At what point do we gut the system? by Pavlik&#8217;s Blog &#187; Don&#8217;t like it? Change the world</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/05/15/at-what-point-do-we-gut-the-system-265/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlik&#8217;s Blog &#187; Don&#8217;t like it? Change the world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comes a point in every young man&#8217;s and woman&#8217;s life when we see that the system is broken. Things simply aren&#8217;t as they should be. Most of us start centering conversations around [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comes a point in every young man&#8217;s and woman&#8217;s life when we see that the system is broken. Things simply aren&#8217;t as they should be. Most of us start centering conversations around [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Money Down the Corn-Hole by Ron</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/23/money-down-the-corn-hole-307/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama &#38; McCain are entrenched politicians; neither one represents "change".  That's why I'm so disappointed that Ron Paul refuses to run as an independent.  He represents the best chance for "change", as he supports the one thing that neither the Democrats nor Republicans do - SMALLER government.  Although he probably wouldn't win, he would definitely impact the race, as I know Democrats who aren't happy w/ Obama and Republicans who aren't happy with McCain.  The question is are they unhappy enough to write in Ron Paul?  I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama &amp; McCain are entrenched politicians; neither one represents &#8220;change&#8221;.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m so disappointed that Ron Paul refuses to run as an independent.  He represents the best chance for &#8220;change&#8221;, as he supports the one thing that neither the Democrats nor Republicans do - SMALLER government.  Although he probably wouldn&#8217;t win, he would definitely impact the race, as I know Democrats who aren&#8217;t happy w/ Obama and Republicans who aren&#8217;t happy with McCain.  The question is are they unhappy enough to write in Ron Paul?  I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Media across the Atlantic not sweating blogs by Mary Kitt-Neel</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/05/29/media-across-the-atlantic-not-sweating-blogs-289/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kitt-Neel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huzzah! and the emergence of blogs also shows that there aren't always two sides to an issue: often there are many, many sides. i come to the blogosphere from a print newspaper background, and i have to say, the british and australian publications i read online have embraced blogs and incorporated them to a degree i haven't yet seen in america. i really do think that american newspapers are trying to stick a very small finger in a very big dyke (i swear i tried to come up with a less gross analogy than that.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huzzah! and the emergence of blogs also shows that there aren&#8217;t always two sides to an issue: often there are many, many sides. i come to the blogosphere from a print newspaper background, and i have to say, the british and australian publications i read online have embraced blogs and incorporated them to a degree i haven&#8217;t yet seen in america. i really do think that american newspapers are trying to stick a very small finger in a very big dyke (i swear i tried to come up with a less gross analogy than that.).</p>
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		<title>Comment on After Rhetoric Comes Reality (after Goya&#039;s Los Proverbios / Disparates, Plate 4) by dochopper</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/17/after-rhetoric-comes-reality-after-goyas-los-proverbiosdisparates-plate-4-306/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>dochopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Defense"'s grin is chillingly evocative of Dick Cheyney's horrific smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Defense&#8221;&#8217;s grin is chillingly evocative of Dick Cheyney&#8217;s horrific smile.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Times they ain&#8217;t a changin&#8217; by Bobbie T/E</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/10/times-they-aint-a-changin-302/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobbie T/E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Take care of your own, and screw everyone else. I just wonder what would happen if one day, we all woke up and decided that “my own” included neighbors.” -Joseph P.

This reminds me of a conversation I had recently. A friend asked me if I think people naturally want to be kind/peaceful towards one another. I said I think they definitely do towards those people who they consider to be "one of us." So, for example, others within their family, friend group, community, nation, religion, culture, etc.  For peace building, and I think also for building a stronger America, the trick is to help people see others as "one of us." 

The challenge of course is that each person's definition of who is in their circle of "one of us" is constantly changing, from moment to moment even. Cut me in the bus line and suddenly you are "one of them," the enemy.  Survive a traumatic experience, such as 911, with me and we bound as brothers… of course only until too many people of your ethnicity move into my neighborhood.  Anyone who I think I am competing against for resources is outside my circle. Anyone who I think has screwed me over in that competition is definitely outside my circle. However, if someone who I perceive to be solidly within my circle does the same thing to me or takes the same thing from me, I can be happy for them because I like being generous to those I love. 

Therefore, in order to make America stronger, to make our democracy healthier, our citizens have to believe we are all in the same circle. How do we do that? 

Well, I’ve found that the more I understand the world, the greater my circle of “one of us” becomes, eventually expanding to even include all of humanity, all living things, even nonliving valuable parts of our planet such as mountains. The more we learn about other people, the more we are able to empathize with them. (For example, if your brother harms you, you might know enough about him to understand where he’s coming from and why he made that mistake. You’re also more likely to forgive him because you have a history of positive interaction and you are invested in a future of positive interaction.) Strengthened empathy among Americans will lead to actions for mutual benefit and the benefit of our society as a whole. Therefore, ensuring equal access for all to a wide variety of truthful educational resources and opportunities should be a high priority in rebuilding our democracy.

However, simply knowing each other is not enough. We must also deal with the competition for resources (or the perceived competition for resources) that so often turns us against one another. I do understand that competition is a valuable tool that has engendered countless American achievements and triumphs and that capitalism has contributed significantly to the rise in the standard of living in our country. But I also am sure that there is now more than enough wealth to go around in this society and that there is no sane argument for its current distribution. 

How do we convince Americans, from the top quintile to the bottom, that we will all be happier, healthier, and safer if we start valuing and treating each and every citizen equally, as just another one of “our own”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Take care of your own, and screw everyone else. I just wonder what would happen if one day, we all woke up and decided that “my own” included neighbors.” -Joseph P.</p>
<p>This reminds me of a conversation I had recently. A friend asked me if I think people naturally want to be kind/peaceful towards one another. I said I think they definitely do towards those people who they consider to be &#8220;one of us.&#8221; So, for example, others within their family, friend group, community, nation, religion, culture, etc.  For peace building, and I think also for building a stronger America, the trick is to help people see others as &#8220;one of us.&#8221; </p>
<p>The challenge of course is that each person&#8217;s definition of who is in their circle of &#8220;one of us&#8221; is constantly changing, from moment to moment even. Cut me in the bus line and suddenly you are &#8220;one of them,&#8221; the enemy.  Survive a traumatic experience, such as 911, with me and we bound as brothers… of course only until too many people of your ethnicity move into my neighborhood.  Anyone who I think I am competing against for resources is outside my circle. Anyone who I think has screwed me over in that competition is definitely outside my circle. However, if someone who I perceive to be solidly within my circle does the same thing to me or takes the same thing from me, I can be happy for them because I like being generous to those I love. </p>
<p>Therefore, in order to make America stronger, to make our democracy healthier, our citizens have to believe we are all in the same circle. How do we do that? </p>
<p>Well, I’ve found that the more I understand the world, the greater my circle of “one of us” becomes, eventually expanding to even include all of humanity, all living things, even nonliving valuable parts of our planet such as mountains. The more we learn about other people, the more we are able to empathize with them. (For example, if your brother harms you, you might know enough about him to understand where he’s coming from and why he made that mistake. You’re also more likely to forgive him because you have a history of positive interaction and you are invested in a future of positive interaction.) Strengthened empathy among Americans will lead to actions for mutual benefit and the benefit of our society as a whole. Therefore, ensuring equal access for all to a wide variety of truthful educational resources and opportunities should be a high priority in rebuilding our democracy.</p>
<p>However, simply knowing each other is not enough. We must also deal with the competition for resources (or the perceived competition for resources) that so often turns us against one another. I do understand that competition is a valuable tool that has engendered countless American achievements and triumphs and that capitalism has contributed significantly to the rise in the standard of living in our country. But I also am sure that there is now more than enough wealth to go around in this society and that there is no sane argument for its current distribution. </p>
<p>How do we convince Americans, from the top quintile to the bottom, that we will all be happier, healthier, and safer if we start valuing and treating each and every citizen equally, as just another one of “our own”?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Make Our Ethanol Comodulce! by isaac</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/05/make-our-ethanol-commedulce-301/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a hectare is a unit of measurement equal to ten thousand square meters. pretty much the metric acre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a hectare is a unit of measurement equal to ten thousand square meters. pretty much the metric acre</p>
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		<title>Comment on Times they ain&#8217;t a changin&#8217; by Doc Hopper</title>
		<link>http://impatientsufferance.com/2008/06/10/times-they-aint-a-changin-302/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the poor today aren't as bad off as in the Depression, the gap between the wealthy and the poor continues to broaden, most rapidly in the past 2 decades.  With improvements in technology and the delivery of medical care,it is inconceivable that the poorest among us live (and die) the way that they do.  "Substantial" improvements in mortality are not enough...why should there be any differences in the delivery of health care and the ability to feed one's family adequately?  BTW, don;t bring up infant mortality in this context...sadly, the US trails much of the industrialized world on this metric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the poor today aren&#8217;t as bad off as in the Depression, the gap between the wealthy and the poor continues to broaden, most rapidly in the past 2 decades.  With improvements in technology and the delivery of medical care,it is inconceivable that the poorest among us live (and die) the way that they do.  &#8220;Substantial&#8221; improvements in mortality are not enough&#8230;why should there be any differences in the delivery of health care and the ability to feed one&#8217;s family adequately?  BTW, don;t bring up infant mortality in this context&#8230;sadly, the US trails much of the industrialized world on this metric.</p>
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